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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2010, 10:03:43 AM »
I'm not sure how I feel about allowing ESAs or pets on planes. Of course I think it'd be fine if they were all well behaved and stayed calm, but that's not always the case.

I can't form an objective opinion because of a situation I saw in the past. There was a guide on the plane and a little tiny schnauzer looking thing in a carrier. Well the lady had the schnauzer out of the carrier in the terminal and it was FREAKING OUT over the guide and kept lunging for it. When we got on the plane the had been seated across the aisle from each other. It barked and barked and barked even though it was under a seat in the carrier. I ended up offering the lady with the guide my seat away from the dog and she accepted. The thing finally shut up, but it freaked out at every bump and change from the plane. It was a less than ideal situation, to say the least.

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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2010, 10:11:59 AM »
Benadryl....LOL.  I use it whenever my cockapoo travels...it keeps his from getting sick and getting upset.

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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2010, 11:24:01 AM »
Most vets do not recommend using any kind of sedative on any animal flying either in cargo or in the plan in a carry on.  The medications can have weird unexpected reactions at high altitudes and affect the animal adversely.  The vast majority of vets will not prescribe things or tell you to give your dog something to help keep them calm for this reason.  If your dog is going to be that freaked out, it is probably best that you not fly him or her. 
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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2010, 12:55:02 PM »
My vet recommended it.

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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2010, 02:39:47 PM »
You might want to consider getting a different vet.   Vets can make mistakes, not be up to par with knowledge... just like any Dr. If your dog isn't mentally stable enough to fly without sedation, perhaps it shouldn't fly! Perhaps if you really want to take your pet, take it in a car.

Medicating/sedating dogs in a place where you can't respond appropriately to an emergency caused by the medication (like 30,000 feet in the air!). What would you if your dog became aggressive, went into seizures, stopped breathing from a med reaction? A person really might want to consider thinking and planning for these things. Being responsible for other living creatures sometimes thinking outside the box - even if we choose not to do that for our selves in our own life.

Something very pressing for SD owners and even just pet owners is to be critical of their care. Research drugs or procedures given to your animals. Know the actions and reactions and contraindications. Check up behind vets and trainers and anyone who recommends anything for the animal. That is called being an informed consumer and responsible owner and steward for your animal.  This is what we as health care consumers do for ourselves! Why would we not do that for animals or children in our care also.

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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2010, 02:50:09 PM »
Most vets do not recommend using any kind of sedative on any animal flying either in cargo or in the plan in a carry on.  The medications can have weird unexpected reactions at high altitudes and affect the animal adversely.  The vast majority of vets will not prescribe things or tell you to give your dog something to help keep them calm for this reason.  If your dog is going to be that freaked out, it is probably best that you not fly him or her. 

I agree absolutely.  I have also been advised not to sedate for flying for the reasons Katrin stated.  In addition, I have heard of these bad reactions actually causing the animal to die during the flight.  I remember seeing a story where Michael J. Fox was talking about moving his family across the country and he flew with the family cat.  The cat was sedated and in a carrier.  During the flight, his cat stopped breathing.  He did CPR and the cat did survive, but can you imagine how scary that would be:  knowing you can't even begin to head for the vet until you land, possibly several hours away and in a place where you don't already have a vet lined up.
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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2010, 02:51:27 PM »
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but profit-bleeding airlines are happy to offer the option.

I think this says it all from the CNN article.

Personally, as a dog lover for well over a half a century... I don't care where dogs go or can be tken. I think they should be everywhere!

Providing: that they are impeccably trained, obedient, clean, quiet, non-aggressive. No ifs - ands - buts about it. Same rule goes for kids and adults.

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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2010, 02:53:33 PM »
I ended up offering the lady with the guide my seat away from the dog and she accepted. The thing finally shut up, but it freaked out at every bump and change from the plane. It was a less than ideal situation, to say the least.

That was incredibly kind of you!  I have been in similar situations (not on a plane though) and it has been on my very last nerve worrying that the dog would get lose and actually go after my dog.  Talk about being stressed.  I think it would be worse if I knew the dog was there but couldn't see it coming if it did escape.
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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2010, 02:54:58 PM »
I left a dangling thought:

Medicating/sedating dogs in a place where you can't respond appropriately to an emergency caused by the medication (like 30,000 feet in the air!). ADD THIS!  is a pretty dangerous and may even be considered irresponsible thing to do to an animal.

Sorry.... sometimes my mind stops and I dont realize it.

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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2010, 04:47:22 PM »
I don't recall saying I used it for flying.  My dog gets car sick.  And I've used Benadryl for years on my dogs for motion sickness.  None have ever had a reaction to it.  I'm not talking about Bo...I have other dogs.  It was recommended by a vet that I thoroughly trust. 
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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2010, 04:55:41 PM »
I think it is a natural assumption since the thread topic is about an upcoming flight.  Just a common misunderstanding.  shrug.  The way I derail topics myself I'm never surprised when we lose sight of the original topic.

I just have one more word to add......

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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2010, 10:09:35 PM »
The vet I work for also never recommends sedation of any sort - including Benadryl - for flying. For driving, however, if a dog has a tendency to get carsick, then Benadryl can help.
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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2010, 10:11:58 PM »
Slightly off topic, but Pebbles took Benadryl for years for her allergies before switching to another medication on vet's recommendation. She took 50 mg twice a day, but it never made her sleepy or drowsy in the least. I wonder why it didn't affect her.
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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2010, 11:32:39 PM »
Tried Sheriff on Benedryl when I first got him because he appeared to be recovering from some sort of skin allergy and was quite itchy.  The vet recommended Benedryl along with switching to better food (the shelter fed Science Diet).  It actually made him really hyper which the vet stated was rare but sometimes did occur.  And now we know that Benedryl is not a good choice for him lol.  But then, I haven't needed it since right after I first got him since the skin problem resolved itself after a few months.
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Re: Upcoming flight...
« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2010, 12:07:23 AM »
Your vet isn't a fan of Science Diet?  Wow!  KEEP THAT VET!  :tongue2:
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